The Jalen Hurts skeptics are out in full force as the Philadelphia Eagles host the Los Angeles Rams on Sunday in the NFC divisional-round matchup, three wins away from winning a Super Bowl. What’s behind criticism this time? A lot of what has plagued the Eagles quarterback over the past two seasons: His ability to win a game based on his passing.

On the latest episode of the “Scoop City” podcast, we touched on a point that Chase has been making for a while now: Jalen Hurts might be a good quarterback, but he isn’t throwing like one right now. The partial transcript below has been edited for clarity. The full episode is available now in The “Scoop City” podcast feed.

Philadelphia's franchise quarterback completed just 13 of 21 passes for 130 yards and two touchdowns. During the game, the lack of significant threat through the air caused many fans and analysts to question Philly's status as a Super Bowl contender. Hurts isn't too worried about the numbers, though.